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Carroll Quigley’s latest hits: “Manipulating America’s Presidential Polls.”
Writing a post or a diary espousing information, making educated guesses and dabbing into occasional conspiracy theories can make good reading on many fronts.
I am mindful of looking at a television program when Nephew came in and asked me why was I watching such a program and my response was due to the fact I write a blog and there are times I really have to know what I am talking about so shut up and sit down!
This well written and easily comprehensible post by TocqueDeville has expanded my comprehension of the world to a significant degree. One such instance happened this morning after tuning into the Chris Matthew Show, Chris immediately began talking about the Presidential race being even in the polls. I can not tell you how helpful this article was in helping me to immediately turn off the television having created an immediate revulsion to anyone saying the race is neck and neck or Even-Stephen or Sen. Obama is a few points ahead or behind Sen. McCain and the likes. Most of the commentators and pundits are evaluating the race from this filtered and aggravating angle to which I do reject and denounce. Not that I want to have things my way but due to the fact “that fact” just does not make sense. Funny what just a little ed-u-ma-cation can do. (Smile)
Fighting for the dignity of my Ancestors,
God bless Bill Gates, WPFW, C-Span and the spirits of the unborn for the help,
BB
History: How the US Government Was Overthrown In Three Easy Steps
by TocqueDeville
Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 04:01:36 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/27/65732/1557/694/557641
Excerpt:
Perhaps most importantly, (the late Carroll Quigley) his revelations help us recognize that there is indeed a power class, working behind the scenes, acting upon our government, the mass media and education to bring about a world that is very much contrary to the interests and aims of the public.
And
More than fifty years ago the Morgan firm decided to infiltrate the Left-wing political movements in the United States. This was relatively easy to do, since these groups were starved for funds and eager for a voice to reach the people. Wall Street supplied both. The purpose was not to destroy ... or take over but was really threefold: (1) to keep informed about the thinking of Left-wing or liberal groups; (2) to provide them with a mouthpiece so that they could "blow off steam," and (3) to have a final veto on their publicity and possibly on their actions, if they ever went "radical."
And Comment: (Praiseworthy in my opinion)
Read Thucydides: This isn't new . . . . (7+ / 0-)
He tells the story of how, during the Peloponesian War, there was an oligarchical coup in Athens, which ended up completely overthrowing the ancient Athenian democracy for a time. He says that the aristocrats now openly controlled everything. But then he adds as an afterthought, that even under the old "democracy" the aristocrats were really running the show anyway.
See, the nature of money, fortunes and property is that when you have lots of it, you have the power to manipulate and influcence the masses. That's just the way things are. You have the resources to get your message out, you have the resources to hire lobbyists, fund think tanks, make campaign contributions, get with other wealthy players with common interests and pool your resources together to influence policy in various directions. And these principles especailly work in a democracy.
In the United States, the corporate media serves the function of being the propaganda mouthpiece of the ruling class. It shoves their ideas, their agendas, their schemes, their outlooks, their philosophies, their values, their ways of looking at the world down the throats of the American people. And, to be fair, the American people WILLINGLY turn on their TVs (no one puts guns to their heads, after all) and listen to their radios, and read "liberal" propaganda rags like the NYTimes or watch "conservative" propaganda rags like FOX, and imbibe the notions and ideas that serve the interests of their rulers.
Shit, didn't anyone think it curious that from the beginning of the primary season the Democrats were told that they largely had a choice between Obama and Clinton (two not-so-progressive Democrats, although one of them talked with a smoother rhetoric and had not voted for the Iraq War), and that populist Edwards was completely marginalized? And look at who the people ended up voting for.
I mean even Kossacks are susceptable to this propaganda.
And to be clear, this is why I hold out no great hope that much is going to be different under an Obama Administration as opposed to a McCain administration. Because the facts are that whoever wants to be president in this country, is going to have to end up doing the bidding of the ruling class. Otherwise, such people will be marginalized such that they never even get near the office, attacked if they succeed in spite of this marginalization, and possibly even assassinated if they actually get into power and threaten to change things too much against the interests of the rulers.
Our "representative democracy" is largely an illusion. The super wealthy control this society, and while they do a lot of this controlling behind the scenes and in back room deals, so much of it is out in the open through the propaganda they routinely spew out over the corporate media.
by LivinginReality on Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 05:44:52 AM PDT
Carroll Quigley’s latest hits: “Manipulating America’s Presidential Polls.”
Writing a post or a diary espousing information, making educated guesses and dabbing into occasional conspiracy theories can make good reading on many fronts.
I am mindful of looking at a television program when Nephew came in and asked me why was I watching such a program and my response was due to the fact I write a blog and there are times I really have to know what I am talking about so shut up and sit down!
This well written and easily comprehensible post by TocqueDeville has expanded my comprehension of the world to a significant degree. One such instance happened this morning after tuning into the Chris Matthew Show, Chris immediately began talking about the Presidential race being even in the polls. I can not tell you how helpful this article was in helping me to immediately turn off the television having created an immediate revulsion to anyone saying the race is neck and neck or Even-Stephen or Sen. Obama is a few points ahead or behind Sen. McCain and the likes. Most of the commentators and pundits are evaluating the race from this filtered and aggravating angle to which I do reject and denounce. Not that I want to have things my way but due to the fact “that fact” just does not make sense. Funny what just a little ed-u-ma-cation can do. (Smile)
Fighting for the dignity of my Ancestors,
God bless Bill Gates, WPFW, C-Span and the spirits of the unborn for the help,
BB
History: How the US Government Was Overthrown In Three Easy Steps
by TocqueDeville
Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 04:01:36 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/27/65732/1557/694/557641
Excerpt:
Perhaps most importantly, (the late Carroll Quigley) his revelations help us recognize that there is indeed a power class, working behind the scenes, acting upon our government, the mass media and education to bring about a world that is very much contrary to the interests and aims of the public.
And
More than fifty years ago the Morgan firm decided to infiltrate the Left-wing political movements in the United States. This was relatively easy to do, since these groups were starved for funds and eager for a voice to reach the people. Wall Street supplied both. The purpose was not to destroy ... or take over but was really threefold: (1) to keep informed about the thinking of Left-wing or liberal groups; (2) to provide them with a mouthpiece so that they could "blow off steam," and (3) to have a final veto on their publicity and possibly on their actions, if they ever went "radical."
And Comment: (Praiseworthy in my opinion)
Read Thucydides: This isn't new . . . . (7+ / 0-)
He tells the story of how, during the Peloponesian War, there was an oligarchical coup in Athens, which ended up completely overthrowing the ancient Athenian democracy for a time. He says that the aristocrats now openly controlled everything. But then he adds as an afterthought, that even under the old "democracy" the aristocrats were really running the show anyway.
See, the nature of money, fortunes and property is that when you have lots of it, you have the power to manipulate and influcence the masses. That's just the way things are. You have the resources to get your message out, you have the resources to hire lobbyists, fund think tanks, make campaign contributions, get with other wealthy players with common interests and pool your resources together to influence policy in various directions. And these principles especailly work in a democracy.
In the United States, the corporate media serves the function of being the propaganda mouthpiece of the ruling class. It shoves their ideas, their agendas, their schemes, their outlooks, their philosophies, their values, their ways of looking at the world down the throats of the American people. And, to be fair, the American people WILLINGLY turn on their TVs (no one puts guns to their heads, after all) and listen to their radios, and read "liberal" propaganda rags like the NYTimes or watch "conservative" propaganda rags like FOX, and imbibe the notions and ideas that serve the interests of their rulers.
Shit, didn't anyone think it curious that from the beginning of the primary season the Democrats were told that they largely had a choice between Obama and Clinton (two not-so-progressive Democrats, although one of them talked with a smoother rhetoric and had not voted for the Iraq War), and that populist Edwards was completely marginalized? And look at who the people ended up voting for.
I mean even Kossacks are susceptable to this propaganda.
And to be clear, this is why I hold out no great hope that much is going to be different under an Obama Administration as opposed to a McCain administration. Because the facts are that whoever wants to be president in this country, is going to have to end up doing the bidding of the ruling class. Otherwise, such people will be marginalized such that they never even get near the office, attacked if they succeed in spite of this marginalization, and possibly even assassinated if they actually get into power and threaten to change things too much against the interests of the rulers.
Our "representative democracy" is largely an illusion. The super wealthy control this society, and while they do a lot of this controlling behind the scenes and in back room deals, so much of it is out in the open through the propaganda they routinely spew out over the corporate media.
by LivinginReality on Sun Jul 27, 2008 at 05:44:52 AM PDT
posted by BB at 10:48 AM
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