Somalia: A 'strrrange' kidnapping story (Update)
The Somalia situation and the kidnapping of the ship and the captain being held hostage after pleading with the kidnappers to take him instead of harming his crew and subsequently breaking away jumping into the waters and deciding it was a dumb thing to do, allowing himself to be rescued to once again be a hostage is, in my opinion, baffling. After jumping into the water, where did he intend to swim in the middle of the ocean? Sounds like somebody (From the Pentagon?) trying to create a story line full of tension not thinking it through. But then, the story line says there has to be a white hero so, what the hell!
The ship's Captain Richard Phillips, perhaps a bit disorientated or mad as hell, jumps overboard in shark infested waters to escape his captors. Spielberg should not have any trouble with that scene. He probably could get that scene in one take and with the appropriate back-ground music that could be the scene giving him a nomination for another Academy Award. Don‘t think these people are not already thinking about movie and book deals. Also, Capt. Phillips may wound up capturing the Honorary degree from Michael Crow of Arizona State University (ASU) originally intended for President Obama ater making a speech at the university. I repeat, this is a strange story.
To be honest, the entire incident doesn’t make since but then when little demure Pentagon reporter Barbara Star comes on stage getting involved in the story line, look out for golden gilded propaganda points “la grand”. In my opinion, Ms. Star is an American propagandist extraordinaire! Not only supported by the Pentagon but by the media in general.
Of particular note to me is the absence of negative name calling associated when people of color do such deeds; terrorist, savages and ocean monkeys. Kill’em. Wipe them off the face of the earth. Social scum.
With the absence of those descriptions, I know sure as hell America has not changed that much and this is abnormal behavior on its part. Very abnormal! To go a step further, it is “doesn’t make since” abnormal behavior. However, What does seem normal to me and make sense is this diary by *bobbymcgill identifying the pirates as Freedom Fighters, my words, protecting their country from ships dumping toxic waste in their waters and fishing fleets from other countries over- fishing in their waters thereby jeopardizing their livelihoods.
The diary is an interesting read and I have not read or heard anything to the contrary making such a scenario as the one published by bobbymcgill hard to believe. The diary is a good read. Kudos to the diarist for good reporting of facts or for being an overzealous and highly imaginative ol’ world Creole. Notably, the information in his diary has not been challenged and with little over fifty comments at this time, the possibilities fade for whatever reason.
On C-span this morning, one caller called in to identify the problem with the pirate situation being one of large fleets over fishing in the waters of Somalia. We have not been told about the cargo the ship is carrying nor any intentions or threats of the pirates to wire the ship with dynamite to blow it up if demands are not met. Pirates of color not attacking luxury ocean liners, rapeing white women and stealing their jewelry, not communicating like thugs and leaving the ship in tact as soon as they get their money is not like the behavior of any kidnappers of color “the powers that be” want us to know about, so what gives? They are being treated like (gasp!) white boys.
The bigots have not been satisfied by being told the pirates will hang on the nearest tree on land or, if not killed on the spot, will spend the rest of their lives being water boarded in an undisclosed prison. I'll say it one more time; this whole situation is strange as hell!
Fighting for the dignity of my Ancestor,
God bless bill Gates, WPFW, C-Span and the spirits of the unborn for the help,
BB
*In defense of the Somali pirates and their initial reasons for piracy
by bobbymcgill
Thu Apr 09, 2009 at 07:36:06 PM PDT
Excerpt:
Piracy emerged in Somalia following the collapse of the government there in 1991. With no authority to police the waters, European ships began dumping millions of barrels of toxic waste into the ocean off the Somali coast while illegal trawlers fished Somalia's seas taking an estimated $300 million of tuna, shrimp, and lobster each year --depleting stocks previously available to local fishermen. Then, following the 2004 tsunami, hundreds of rusting barrels, dumped from foreign vessels, washed up on shore leaking toxic and nuclear waste --causing the deaths of over 300 Somalians.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/9/718442/-In-defense-of-the-Somali-pirates-and-their-initial-reasons-for-piracy
And
Comment:
Then that's not a solution (0+ / 0-)
And, believe it or not, our navy is not really suited for combatting piracy. So while we could blast them out of the water, in this specific situation that's not an option because I'm pretty sure we'd all like to get Phillips back alive, and over the long run it would require a constant presence, unless, as people like Gates an others have suggested, you go in and deal with the root of the problem which stems from the instability in Somalia. I really wish I could find the link.
Any bluster about storming the lifeboat is just that - bluster. That's not a solution. It's not a long-term solution. That's certainly not, it seems to me given the size of the pirate's craft, really feasible without seriously endangering the hostage either.
-8.25, -6.97
by jaywillie on Sat Apr 11, 2009 at 09:21:29 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/11/719109/-Negotiations-With-Somali-Pirates-Have-Broken-Down
(Update) I did not look at the political aspect were Capt. Phillips killed. I had a completely different take on the situation. Thanks to diarist JCWilmore for enlightenment.
The Republicans wanted Obama and the Navy to fail (26+ / 0-)
They wanted this mission to fail so they could use it to bolster Dick Cheney's case that Obama can't keep us safe.
Well the U.S. Navy and Barack Obama didn't let us down, did they?
"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." --H.L. Mencken
by JCWilmore on Sun Apr 12, 2009 at 01:02:21 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/12/719299/-Obama-Approved-Special-Forces-mission-to-save-Captain!
The ship's Captain Richard Phillips, perhaps a bit disorientated or mad as hell, jumps overboard in shark infested waters to escape his captors. Spielberg should not have any trouble with that scene. He probably could get that scene in one take and with the appropriate back-ground music that could be the scene giving him a nomination for another Academy Award. Don‘t think these people are not already thinking about movie and book deals. Also, Capt. Phillips may wound up capturing the Honorary degree from Michael Crow of Arizona State University (ASU) originally intended for President Obama ater making a speech at the university. I repeat, this is a strange story.
To be honest, the entire incident doesn’t make since but then when little demure Pentagon reporter Barbara Star comes on stage getting involved in the story line, look out for golden gilded propaganda points “la grand”. In my opinion, Ms. Star is an American propagandist extraordinaire! Not only supported by the Pentagon but by the media in general.
Of particular note to me is the absence of negative name calling associated when people of color do such deeds; terrorist, savages and ocean monkeys. Kill’em. Wipe them off the face of the earth. Social scum.
With the absence of those descriptions, I know sure as hell America has not changed that much and this is abnormal behavior on its part. Very abnormal! To go a step further, it is “doesn’t make since” abnormal behavior. However, What does seem normal to me and make sense is this diary by *bobbymcgill identifying the pirates as Freedom Fighters, my words, protecting their country from ships dumping toxic waste in their waters and fishing fleets from other countries over- fishing in their waters thereby jeopardizing their livelihoods.
The diary is an interesting read and I have not read or heard anything to the contrary making such a scenario as the one published by bobbymcgill hard to believe. The diary is a good read. Kudos to the diarist for good reporting of facts or for being an overzealous and highly imaginative ol’ world Creole. Notably, the information in his diary has not been challenged and with little over fifty comments at this time, the possibilities fade for whatever reason.
On C-span this morning, one caller called in to identify the problem with the pirate situation being one of large fleets over fishing in the waters of Somalia. We have not been told about the cargo the ship is carrying nor any intentions or threats of the pirates to wire the ship with dynamite to blow it up if demands are not met. Pirates of color not attacking luxury ocean liners, rapeing white women and stealing their jewelry, not communicating like thugs and leaving the ship in tact as soon as they get their money is not like the behavior of any kidnappers of color “the powers that be” want us to know about, so what gives? They are being treated like (gasp!) white boys.
The bigots have not been satisfied by being told the pirates will hang on the nearest tree on land or, if not killed on the spot, will spend the rest of their lives being water boarded in an undisclosed prison. I'll say it one more time; this whole situation is strange as hell!
Fighting for the dignity of my Ancestor,
God bless bill Gates, WPFW, C-Span and the spirits of the unborn for the help,
BB
*In defense of the Somali pirates and their initial reasons for piracy
by bobbymcgill
Thu Apr 09, 2009 at 07:36:06 PM PDT
Excerpt:
Piracy emerged in Somalia following the collapse of the government there in 1991. With no authority to police the waters, European ships began dumping millions of barrels of toxic waste into the ocean off the Somali coast while illegal trawlers fished Somalia's seas taking an estimated $300 million of tuna, shrimp, and lobster each year --depleting stocks previously available to local fishermen. Then, following the 2004 tsunami, hundreds of rusting barrels, dumped from foreign vessels, washed up on shore leaking toxic and nuclear waste --causing the deaths of over 300 Somalians.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/9/718442/-In-defense-of-the-Somali-pirates-and-their-initial-reasons-for-piracy
And
Comment:
Then that's not a solution (0+ / 0-)
And, believe it or not, our navy is not really suited for combatting piracy. So while we could blast them out of the water, in this specific situation that's not an option because I'm pretty sure we'd all like to get Phillips back alive, and over the long run it would require a constant presence, unless, as people like Gates an others have suggested, you go in and deal with the root of the problem which stems from the instability in Somalia. I really wish I could find the link.
Any bluster about storming the lifeboat is just that - bluster. That's not a solution. It's not a long-term solution. That's certainly not, it seems to me given the size of the pirate's craft, really feasible without seriously endangering the hostage either.
-8.25, -6.97
by jaywillie on Sat Apr 11, 2009 at 09:21:29 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/11/719109/-Negotiations-With-Somali-Pirates-Have-Broken-Down
(Update) I did not look at the political aspect were Capt. Phillips killed. I had a completely different take on the situation. Thanks to diarist JCWilmore for enlightenment.
The Republicans wanted Obama and the Navy to fail (26+ / 0-)
They wanted this mission to fail so they could use it to bolster Dick Cheney's case that Obama can't keep us safe.
Well the U.S. Navy and Barack Obama didn't let us down, did they?
"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." --H.L. Mencken
by JCWilmore on Sun Apr 12, 2009 at 01:02:21 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/12/719299/-Obama-Approved-Special-Forces-mission-to-save-Captain!
posted by BB at 5:01 AM
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