Is desire to own land the original drive of man?
I can not call it a sin due to the fact it may have been the natural order of things before labels. A man needed more space so, in terms of simplicity, he went and got it. Land was there and that’s the way it was “In the beginning” so to speak.
It was when man starts taking the land of others that the process began to have names attached to it like stealing and sin and greed. Those words developed as language developed and each one designated for a particular act describing a man’s desire to own land. I think an argument could be made in relationship to man’s desires to own land and the original intent of civilization. The acquisition of land was key to civilization’s survival and if that be the case, civilization is finite because land on this planet is finite.
We have already seen and documented how civilization will end up. It will end up as a Feudal Society, no God nor religious symbols to hold on to, no individual group identities with flags and anthems, all individual manifestations of a human spirit squelched including the mourning of many pre-mature deaths of relatives and ancestors with using logic being punishable by death; logic being the orderly stringing together of truths. The word logic will be the new emotional companion word to Anti-Semitic with the same dire consequences now law of the land.
It was the tenor in the voice of Dr. Rice delivering a prepared speech in Georgia ordering the Russians to get out that has really caught my attention. This morning in another setting I just happened to hear her repeat her demands but this time with even more agitation I originally perceived. There was something so primitive about her demands. So “from the Bible to Buddha to Gandhi and Martin Luther King et.al,” and reflecting is this the only distance we have come? Is it really “I’m willing to blow up the playground if you don’t get off?” In my opinion labels need not apply. Further, I contend, this is civilization’s basic desire for land ownership to advance itself with its own built in obsolescence and finite capabilities.
At this point, I am confronted with the question, “Is civilization as we know it finite?” Or even if “A new world order” have inherent in its wording the beginning of a NEW civilization? Is that possible? How? Common sense tells me these questions have been debated if not answered but I am not in those circles nor do my reading go into such areas but still, I wonder from my corner in the world.
Inherent in the demands of Dr. Rice, Sen. McCain, Pres. Bush and others telling Russia to leave Georgia is going for the finite capabilities of total land ownership. It started in this country with desires to have the land of the Indians and has escalated to owning the land mass of the world. As I recall, things went well with the Indians until treaties were violated and labels began to be applied to both parties. What I find most striking is past and successful abilities to thwart putting cars on the market i.e., the Tucker automobile. I can only imagine how much land we could be satisfied with if we had continued that route noting depending on oil. But then there was the taking of land for gold, then uranium and the list goes on. It’s still not too late to honorable negotiate land and its resources. As they say, better late then never. Enough said, I‘m going all over the place and talking to myself does not advance this conversation.
I heavily based this post on my reactions from several posting on Counterpunch. Com.
Excerpt:
Besides expanding NATO from a regional military pact to a worldwide alliance—the organization is deeply engaged in Afghanistan and is currently moving into the Pacific Basin—the Bush Administration began dismantling East-West agreements, including the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (ABM). The demise of the Treaty allowed the U.S. to deploy an ABM and to recruit nations to sign up for the system, including Japan, India and Australia. Lastly, NATO has just agreed to build an ABM system in Eastern Europe.
http://counterpunch.com/hallinan08162008.html
And
Russia and Georgia are currently engulfed in a tense situation that has brought violence to South Ossetia, an area of Georgia that has been quasi-independent, but with no international recognition, for years. Russia has stepped in, ostensibly to prevent attempts by Georgia to regain the region. The skirmish has quickly escalated to a deadly war.
http://counterpunch.com/fantina08162008.html
And
The success of the Bush Regime’s propaganda, lies, and deception with gullible and inattentive Americans since 9/11 has made it difficult for intelligent, aware people to be optimistic about the future of the United States. For almost 8 years the US media has served as Ministry of Propaganda for a war criminal regime. Americans incapable of thinking for themselves, reading between the lines, or accessing foreign media on the Internet have been brainwashed.
As the Nazi propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, said, it is easy to deceive a people. You just tell them they have been attacked and wave the flag.
http://counterpunch.com/roberts08152008.html
Fighting for the dignity of my Ancestors,
God bless Bill Gates, WPFW, C-Span and the spirits of the unborn for the help,
BB
It was when man starts taking the land of others that the process began to have names attached to it like stealing and sin and greed. Those words developed as language developed and each one designated for a particular act describing a man’s desire to own land. I think an argument could be made in relationship to man’s desires to own land and the original intent of civilization. The acquisition of land was key to civilization’s survival and if that be the case, civilization is finite because land on this planet is finite.
We have already seen and documented how civilization will end up. It will end up as a Feudal Society, no God nor religious symbols to hold on to, no individual group identities with flags and anthems, all individual manifestations of a human spirit squelched including the mourning of many pre-mature deaths of relatives and ancestors with using logic being punishable by death; logic being the orderly stringing together of truths. The word logic will be the new emotional companion word to Anti-Semitic with the same dire consequences now law of the land.
It was the tenor in the voice of Dr. Rice delivering a prepared speech in Georgia ordering the Russians to get out that has really caught my attention. This morning in another setting I just happened to hear her repeat her demands but this time with even more agitation I originally perceived. There was something so primitive about her demands. So “from the Bible to Buddha to Gandhi and Martin Luther King et.al,” and reflecting is this the only distance we have come? Is it really “I’m willing to blow up the playground if you don’t get off?” In my opinion labels need not apply. Further, I contend, this is civilization’s basic desire for land ownership to advance itself with its own built in obsolescence and finite capabilities.
At this point, I am confronted with the question, “Is civilization as we know it finite?” Or even if “A new world order” have inherent in its wording the beginning of a NEW civilization? Is that possible? How? Common sense tells me these questions have been debated if not answered but I am not in those circles nor do my reading go into such areas but still, I wonder from my corner in the world.
Inherent in the demands of Dr. Rice, Sen. McCain, Pres. Bush and others telling Russia to leave Georgia is going for the finite capabilities of total land ownership. It started in this country with desires to have the land of the Indians and has escalated to owning the land mass of the world. As I recall, things went well with the Indians until treaties were violated and labels began to be applied to both parties. What I find most striking is past and successful abilities to thwart putting cars on the market i.e., the Tucker automobile. I can only imagine how much land we could be satisfied with if we had continued that route noting depending on oil. But then there was the taking of land for gold, then uranium and the list goes on. It’s still not too late to honorable negotiate land and its resources. As they say, better late then never. Enough said, I‘m going all over the place and talking to myself does not advance this conversation.
I heavily based this post on my reactions from several posting on Counterpunch. Com.
Excerpt:
Besides expanding NATO from a regional military pact to a worldwide alliance—the organization is deeply engaged in Afghanistan and is currently moving into the Pacific Basin—the Bush Administration began dismantling East-West agreements, including the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (ABM). The demise of the Treaty allowed the U.S. to deploy an ABM and to recruit nations to sign up for the system, including Japan, India and Australia. Lastly, NATO has just agreed to build an ABM system in Eastern Europe.
http://counterpunch.com/hallinan08162008.html
And
Russia and Georgia are currently engulfed in a tense situation that has brought violence to South Ossetia, an area of Georgia that has been quasi-independent, but with no international recognition, for years. Russia has stepped in, ostensibly to prevent attempts by Georgia to regain the region. The skirmish has quickly escalated to a deadly war.
http://counterpunch.com/fantina08162008.html
And
The success of the Bush Regime’s propaganda, lies, and deception with gullible and inattentive Americans since 9/11 has made it difficult for intelligent, aware people to be optimistic about the future of the United States. For almost 8 years the US media has served as Ministry of Propaganda for a war criminal regime. Americans incapable of thinking for themselves, reading between the lines, or accessing foreign media on the Internet have been brainwashed.
As the Nazi propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, said, it is easy to deceive a people. You just tell them they have been attacked and wave the flag.
http://counterpunch.com/roberts08152008.html
Fighting for the dignity of my Ancestors,
God bless Bill Gates, WPFW, C-Span and the spirits of the unborn for the help,
BB
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